Emily Ratajkowski on Her ‘High Low’ Podcast & ‘Female Anger’

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Until further notice, Emily Ratajkowski is in the “Bitch Era”. If in recent months the writer and model has appeared on your “For You” page, an outspoken and socially savvy friend, you already know that on TikTok, Ratajkowski delivers hot food her about toxic men, the terror of women involved in cheating scandals with powerful men, and the perennial fetish for women’s pain, whether it be what are the movies like? Yellow or in real life. “I was thinking about that, and you know the kind that’s hard to get hot? She said in a recent video, angry. “So I have a proposal. I think we all need to be a little more upset… I think we should all be in our Bitch Era. “

Thankfully for us, Ratajkowski is also entering her podcast era. The My body author teamed up with Sony Music Entertainment to launch High and low with EmRata, a podcast series part monologue, part interview; Twice a week, it will explore everything from philosophy, politics, and feminism to sex, pop culture, and TikTok. In the third bonus episode, Ratajkowski will solicit comments from listeners – she finds it essential to dive into the feedback section. “Books are great because you make this yours, but people go buy a copy and it becomes theirs. The writer-reader relationship is great, but it’s definitely not as much of a conversation as you might be online, in the ongoing discussions that take place on Twitter and TikTok,” she told Cut. “Podcasting is somewhere in between. I like the idea of ​​having a conversation and a community in a way that you can’t have in a book. “

As a lifelong podcast fan who grew up listening to NPR and “This American Life” while driving from his hometown of San Diego to LA as a teenager, Ratajkowski is excited to take on the role of host of the show. its own program. High and low listeners can expect to hear relationship advice (“I’m a single mom,” she told Cut, alluding to her very public divorce), personal anecdotes and , according to Ratajkowski, at least one episode delves into feminism and plastic surgery. No subject is too small: “I am intellectually interested in the idea of ​​approaching trivial topics in a sophisticated way or marrying both. Not just who I am but how my brain works. I have a bikini business and a book of essays. Cut spoke with Ratajkowski about other things we can anticipate from her podcast, raising questions that frustrate Me Too and whether her son and Julia Fox will soon have a BYOB playdate (Do not bring your own broom).

You wrote the essay, and on TikTok, you share advice like an outspoken, knowledgeable friend. What inspired you to get into the podcasting medium?
For years, people have told me I should start a podcast. It’s one of the things that I like, Everyone has a podcast. But I have a particular point of view that I’m not sure the world already knows. When I decided to publish my book, I knew I wanted to start a podcast. Through the book, I feel like people will understand me, my politics, and who I am. But something about speaking directly to people has always intrigued me.

I grew up listening to NPR. My parents didn’t have a TV at home, so we listened to a lot of radio stations. I lived in San Diego and worked in LA as a teenager and drove myself there all the time. I get tired of listening to music, so I basically listened to “This American Life” and “Fresh Air” and all that — podcasts before they were podcasts.

As a lifelong podcast fan, how does it feel to work on one of your own podcasts? Who can we expect in terms of guests?
I can’t talk about guests because celebrity booking is a wild process. I don’t want to name it and then talk about it, but on the subject, I’m naturally drawn to women’s issues and thinking about power. I just recorded an episode on feminism and plastic surgery: Plastic surgery feminism, or vice versa? That is an example.

Because podcasts are conversations and monologues, they are two separate things. It’s hard to believe talking to people; I am a naturally curious person. That part is pretty good, but I’m just getting started, so ask me again in six months. The monologue was also lively. I have ideas that pop into my head and I put them in my Notes app and a lot of those ideas end up in essays or articles. But a lot of them didn’t because it took time to define the idea. The monologues fall somewhere between an essay and a TikTok. I really like it so far.

You have recently made a video stoically refers to the legacy of the Me Too movement, saying it doesn’t change things and how it produces men who are more afraid of the consequences than men who are genuinely interested in causing harm. You can talk more about it, and you will solve it on High and low?
My paperback was just released recently, and when I was writing, a lot of people asked me in interviews if things have changed, both in my experience in the industry as well as when I was a teenager. a child and a young woman. I feel like having this expectation for me is like, “Yes.” But I just don’t know if I totally feel the same way. I do think there is a sense of dread around “You better watch your back and be careful with what you say”, but less understanding of power dynamics and why it is important to treat with women respectfully. It’s scary for me. That’s what I’m trying to say in my TikTok: When you teach someone a lesson in life, you don’t want to because they’re afraid of getting in trouble; you want it is because they understand the concept. When I made that video, it was because someone asked me that question and I felt like I’m sick of this damn question! I will give a PSA.

What have you learned about relationships as an adult, and will we hear more advice on that?
I am a single mother and I am 31 years old. I learned a lot about relationships and marriage. We’re in this exciting time where there’s all sorts of research on post-witch women and their happiness, on heterosexual marriage and how families work. Those are the things that interest me and also the things that I have read. I’m actually rereading Adrienne Rich’s Of The Woman Born. It’s about work-life-motherhood balance and how difficult and unfair it is. So yes, absolutely.

Let me know how you prepare for a successful Bitch Era in 2022.
Honestly, it could be longer than 2022, because this year is coming to an end and I have a lot of fun to serve. All in all, I think anger is something we all have a negative relationship with. At least for me, I associate it with masculinity and masculinity and toxic and violent, even masculinity. But I think what the world can use is a healthy antidote to women’s anger. It’s interesting what we’re seeing in the world and what’s happening in Iran right now. Reasonable rage can really work. A lot of good can come from anger, and it’s not meant to be violent or toxic masculinity; it can only mean a bitch. I like that word because it is negative, offensive [connotation]. It’s a slur, but I want to say that, in the same way that we’re thinking about how being angry isn’t a negative thing, being a bitch isn’t necessarily a bad thing. negative. It can just mean standing up for yourself.

I have to ask: Will your son and Julia Fox’s baby ever hang out?
Sure. She and I have known each other for a long time. We actually had dinner and drinks not long ago, and we planned to have Valentino and Sly together. It will happen for sure. I guess Valentino might be able to clean them up. But maybe we’ll just go to the park.

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